You mean Michael was able to overcome his addiction to the devil’s weed and still win all those gold medals?
Wow! He’s even more superhuman than I thought!
was there, no police called I was at bar all night and dont drink was driving. Only person involved was young man with beard and long hair who walked out with security, was Corfman I think. I have nothing to do with gambling but have found all this hilarious, it was a great stay at Novotel as usual, them online gamblers drama things up a bit eh and many of them have the manners of pigs. Also there were flying monkeys and a batallion of armed hedgehogs running through the hotel when fifty nine special forces people walked one dude to the exit....... LOL........ The conlcusion next time I reside at Novotel, I'll make sure them online gamblers arent there. Job done..
He was quietly asked to go with the security and refused so one security walked him out holding his arm as the man was pushing and arguing in protest at being walked from the venue they arrived at the elevator and left to the exit. Korfman was not elbowed and kneed, he was walked to the elevator and left, He looked annoyed and was un cooperative, the security men seemed calm and polite about it from where me and my wife were.
(Korfman was taken into an elevator by hotel security goons and repeatedly "elbowed" and "kneed".) bit strong guys more like a short conversation followed by a gentle ushered walk from where we were :) and the security who walked him out were small guys.
The security at the hotel and exhibition where polite and professional at checking our passes etc, I felt very safe compared to other events I have attended all over the world. The exhibition organisers must have sorted whatever he had 'allegedly' done quickly as he was back in the hotel in no time with nothing but a bruised ego and a bad temper. The following day we saw Korfman all over the exhibition and he looked happier.
Anyway glad to hear they have sorted everything out, a meeting with a positive outcome is always productive, so maybe something good came out of it after all. Got to say though its an over dramatised report guys of a 30 second occurance.
yea you are all complaining about the betting meanwhile i bielive we do have the freedom of speech and shit besides its funny how obama's birth certifacate cant be found..hmmm,,m,mm,,m maybe he isnt a realo american...=p
Mafia Lou cause his own problems, now want to fist fight, when he knows he not in good health, like my self, from eating to many neck bones and pork chops. Never broke one rule over there and it seems I cant post over there. Was a good place at one point.
I agree with both of the previous comments re drama and the activities conected to CAP.
The CAP environment and many of the people that have partaken in its existence have not behaved as the appropriate championso of the affiliate business.
And this has been confirmed in the worst possible way on both the commercial front and the real world behaviour of people.
Good luck all, may a suitable and more appropriate replacement for the Webmaster world arrive on the scene as I think the culture of soap boxing and sniping needs to stop. This is business, not a drunken night at the pub.
Cheers
After reading the mess online and having witnessed what looked like a mob lynching in the hotel lobby at CAP Euro I can assure you that many affiliates are begging their managers to leave CAP.
In the past a CAP certification meant something. Now a certification means this:
"As a gambling operator we do not care about the return on our investments. We support an organization that uses our money to build competitive products and treats affiliates as nothing more than a traffic statistic. We will continue to pay thousands of pounds every year to aid and enable our own competition. We are push overs"
Lou asked someone to physically fight in front of his clients. Warren then asked his own business partner to leave so he could blame the problems at CAP on him.
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Alex, was it a mistake that one of the organizers was yelling profanity's and saying things like "I'll fucking kill you" to Jtodd in the lobby? These assholes think they are the igaming mafia and are invincible. Alex, you don't need CAP to do successful shows, and really this is probably their last show that will be supported by the industry anyways.
Had police called to the scene of the scuffle. In any scene of chaos there are always a few confusing accounts. It sounds like hotel security was being confused for police officers. Numerous eyewitnesses have since collaborated that Michael Corfman's son was pretty seriously manhandled by hotel security despite that they are paying customers at the hotel. Nobody knows for sure what exactly led up to that particular event from what we can piece together.
This is the most accurate statement and advice that should definitely be heeded... "They need some time off and regroup instead of trying to destroy the competition. I don't think Lou and Warren are bad people. I think they are letting other motivations get in the way of business sense."
They are putting so much pressure on themselves to monopolize the industry that they end up going down corrupt roads which leads to implosions, both on CAP, and literally within Lou's own body. They need to relax, and just take their piece of the pie, and let other people eat too. Their super affiliate friends should heed this same advice.
This was a mistake, and as soon as I knew about it I made sure Steve was immediately let back in, this was sorted within 10 mins.
There was no police, brawl etc, etc. Any questions please mail me alex@capeuro.com. Sorry I can't write more, but doing this on my mobile.
Cheers, Alex
This is tame compared to some of the slugfests we've had along the way. People need to calm down. You haven't been in a true brawl until you've been confronted with the likes of Sumo Sue Schneider. This woman had me in a chokehold for God's sake in front of a few dozen industry drunks. We once all sneaked into Sue's GIGSE Conference after she had one of her goons (okay Kevin was a teddy bear) stand guard with orders not to let more than one of us in. Jenny Woo flashed her breasts and four of us stormed the conference. Kevin was all ga ga. Sue just laughed and hit him over the head with her binder lol. No security to escort us out. Those were the days!!!!
BTW I still recall the old GPWA implosion from back in the day. CAP is way more ahead of where that organization was in 2002/2003. I have a tough time believing CAP can self-destruct so quickly but there definitely seems to be a groundswell reading these forums. Never noticed any dissatisfaction at the CAP events we attended and there were plenty of people at those. I can't vouch for anything that's transpired in the past year and a half though. I think Lou and Warren are their own worst enemies right now. I can't for the life of me imagine how their involvement with CardSpike (assuming everyone is getting paid now) would lead to such a mudslide.
One piece of advise - they don't need to be treading on other people's territory (Amsterdam). I think that is downright obnoxious and I'm not alone here. They need to some that time off and regroup instead of trying to destroy the competition. I don't think Lou and Warren are bad people. I think they are letting other motivations get in the way of business sense.
I'm So Proud to be part of an industry that has come to this. This reminds me of a "lovers quarrel" the blew up after the first CAC an nearly killed GPWA back in 2002/2003
Steve wasn't even doing anything, just standing there. He wasn't accosting anyone from the conference. He was in the lobby, a public area that was not part of the conference.
CAP had 4 guys literally beat Steve up in the lobby. They were pushing him, kneeing him, he fell. They threw him into the elevator. Some people were taking photos of it.
Steve is just a kid. He can't be more than 2 years out of school. He's harmless!
Everyone in the lobby at the conference saw it. It was disgusting. Some of the programs exhibiting saw it and were furious.
children in large numbers have been exposed to Internet pornography, as another recent study shows. See, C. Sabina, J. Wolak & D. Finkelhor, "The Nature and Dynamics of Internet Pornography Exposure for Youth," CyberPsychology & Behavior, 2008 ("Overall, 72% of participants (93.2% of boys, 61.1% of girls) had seen online pornography before age 18...Most exposure began when youth were ages 14 to 17, and boys were significantly more likely to view online pornography more often and to view more types of images...").
Quite incredibly, the Court of Appeals judges ignored the reality that as children get older they can access the Internet outside the home (e.g., at a school, library, friend or relative's house or job). Increasingly, children can also access the Internet via mobile devices, and all it takes is one child in a group of friends to have unrestricted access to the Internet for all to have access.
In turning a blind eye towards the fact that many parents do not use filters and that children can access the Internet on computers that are not under parental control, these judges also ignored the Supreme Court's holding in Ginsberg v. New York, 390 U.S., at 639
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At least not at this time. You can donate to their cause and court fees via the website at www.imega.org. I will say that only once in my dealings with Joe has he even brought up the donations aspect of their efforts but they can use every penny that comes their way.
by that I mean a state by state grass roots campaign similar to poker players alliance? Ohio here and would like to get more involved with their efforts.