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Merge Poker Players Now Getting Paid Through PIC Club

Good news for those online poker players caught in the middle of a high profile payment feud between the Merge Online Poker network and PIC Club Poker, a payment platform.  These players are finally going to be getting paid.

PIC Club Poker CEO Chuck Kidd reports that Merge has paid one third of what he claims they owe his company, thus allowing players to receive their funds.

Kidd has insisted that Merge owes $160,000 to PIC Club Poker since mid summer.  Merge claims that a "whale" used PIC Club Poker to pull funds in and out of various Merge Network online poker rooms, thus resulting in extensive fees.   PIC Club charges fees on each deposit and withdrawal.  Furthermore, the player in question admits that his wife charged back on his credit card. 

While both PIC Club Poker and Merge may have presented valid arguments, there is no excuse for poker players to get caught in the middle.

Gambling911.com reported on Wednesday that at least one Merge poker room, Aced.com, was telling customers they could not pay since funds were being held by PIC Club (the processor).  In recent years, reputable online gambling firms have been burnt by payment processors to the tune of millions of dollars but still manage to pay their players.  Gambling911.com also noted that a recent seizure of over $40 million in funds belonging to both Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars by the US Attorney of the Southern District of New York did not prevent either company from paying its customers, despite being out a significant amount of money. 

"The players checks are going out so our fight for the players is over," said Kidd.

But the PIC Club Poker CEO says his company is still owed a significant amount of money from Merge Poker. 

"Now I have the fight for the funds still due to PICClub. I have a responsibility to all of PICClub Investors, Staff and Members to try to recover these funds. Remember we are an Investment Company and we pay interest on all the players funds in their Common Share Account (CSA). We paid 14% this first year and 10.5 our second year. This is based completely on our profits as a company so the funds still due to PICClub are important to every PICClub Member. I hate to see that money not get collected and it have an impact on the percentage payout to the CSA this December."

Merge CEO, Anthony Taylor, was expected to present his side to Gambling911.com shortly.  To date, Taylor has said little outside of issuing a company statement that Merge had severed ties with PIC Club Poker. 

Christopher Costigan, Gambling911.com Publisher 

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Merge Not Paying Player's Winnings!!!!

I play poker online for fun and relaxation. I seem to win now but have not gotten paid by Merge (Carbon Poker) for 3 months now. I was using PIC Club and never had a problem with withdrawals from them (while Carbon Poker took 3-4 weeks to send me a winnings check PIC got them out in two weeks). On Sept 12th 09 I withdrew $600 of about $850 I had won over a few days. I was told by them "the check's in the mail" several times after the 4 weeks mark passed and no check. I then got a phone call and e-mail directly from Check Kidd CEO of PIC explaining the problem he was having with Merge. I was told to send my $600 back to Carbon/Merge since they never did pay PIC the money anyway (although carbon denies this) before a certain date in October,, which I promptly did on October 13th I believe, I also withdrew the amount and had a check sent. I have been checking and have gotten many excuses as to why my check is not here yet (November 23rd) , the comment last night being that my postal service may be slow.. Now I get my FIRST e-mail response from Carbon Poker in the 2 months I've been trying to get paid my winnings, and it says "Please be informed that your check was processed on the 20th of November. Kindly inform us if you wish to wait for the said check to arrive at your place or have it cancelled and the funds returned back to your account. Should you require further assistance or information, please reply to this message.' Now all along I've been told it's in the mail and it would be here in 4 weeks. I have copies of all the live chats and promises. I really think there may be a problem with this poker site and their ability to pay. I heard nothing about PIC players getting paid by PIC as I just read here on your site. I was told by Chuck at PIC to send it back to Merge/Carbon Poker and now a withdrawal from September 12th is (maybe if they are telling the truth this time) just getting "processed" today, and I guess I can expect NOT to see it in 4-6 weeks again. It's a shame because I liked the room and I like the game. The dishonesty with the customers who keep them going - I can live without. Anyone else with similar experiences here? I have found others on the site that have been waiting 6 weeks or more for checks. Juli
Submitted by Guest on Mon, 11/23/2009 - 20:54.

TWICE NOW REEFER POKER (PART OF MERGE GAMING)

TWICE NOW REEFER POKER (PART OF MERGE GAMING) I've had an issue when I wanted to cashout. First time it was pic club that I used as a deposit method into the site and out of the site and when I made 2k I was told that I couldnt cashout through pic club by reefer Poker because they were no longer in business with them. So I didnt question it, and within days of having to start looking for a new method to cashout, I took a large sum of terrible beats in cashgames and roullette losing mostly all of what I wanted to cashout. So I let it go and started over, depositing more money from two credit cards, I played for a month or two and decided again it was time to cashout, this time pic club wasnt the issue for merge it was that they wanted me to send them my credit card verifications and first deposit amt for verification purposes (which can take some time). I truly believe merge gaming has an issue with paying certain players who may not play the games they like until they run out of excuses as to why they arent going to proceed with the cashout. Oh yes and again in the process it became impossible to win there all of a sudden ESP. playing the roullette table this time, in fact the ball as it were dropping the first night of roullette (my screen would freeze for a second when the ball was on its way down into the slot I had my money on, say black or red as that is what I ussually bet on, and when it unfroze a quick second later the ball was landing in the one right after what I placed my bets on) Now this didnt happen on my 5 dollar bets but my 25 dollar bets and up it happened alot. AS well as when it didnt happen, it always found a way into any slot but the color i bet on. When roullette failed and a i had a little money left I tried poker again and I took some sick badbeats. Last but not least and the part that makes me want to investigate this matter, the site let me deposit 20 dollars into it, after my credit card needing to be verified was the reason it would not let me cashout...HUH? LOL, sick right...Call me crazy but I think that merge is tight with money and that it has no interest in paying out, if It can find a way around it. I know one things for sure, I am going to read up on these matters as I am sure I am not the only one who these funky things has happened to.~ over and out, let me know your feelings on this matter anyone and everyone
Submitted by Guest on Tue, 11/24/2009 - 15:53.

Conflict?

Isn't it a bit of a conflict that Pic Club is now opening their own poker room? PokerProsNetwork dot com is also owned by Chuck Kidd. hmmm, a payment processor with a poker room. I would have a major issue with that if I was one of the other poker rooms.
Submitted by Guest on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 13:40.

this is idiotic. In recent

this is idiotic. In recent years, reputable online gambling firms have been burnt by payment processors to the tune of millions of dollars but still manage to pay their players.. Interesting that the author implies that pic club "burned" merge.
Submitted by Guest on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 13:18.

The Merge shill strikes again

G911 implied no such thing. What did PIC ever do to you? Close your account for fraud, colusion or chip dumping? Or did you just not get breast fed long enough and thats why you are so weird. Give it a rest and celebrate that 911 was willing to print the truth that shamed Merge into playing their players.
Submitted by Guest on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 15:31.

so why else would the author

so why else would the author write about payment processors burning poker rooms in an article about pic club (payment processor) and aced (poker room)
Submitted by Guest on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 16:48.

credit gambling911 for this

say what you will about this site, they can be relentless and thats not a bad thing for the players. only site I see reporting on this and judging by the amount of feedback that's a sad reality. I for one appreciate this site is only a quarter fluff compared to the 99.9% fluff we get from these affiliate "news" sites. I'll take TMZ of poker any day over those.
Submitted by Guest on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 00:21.

only site I see reporting on

only site I see reporting on this and judging by the amount of feedback that's a sad reality. that's because chuck kidd is feeding this crap to the site. the story doesn't appear anywhere else because chuck isn't feeding it anywhere else. he would post it to a reputable forum but he knows there are many intelligent people there who will just shoot him down. I for one appreciate this site is only a quarter fluff compared to the 99.9% fluff we get from these affiliate "news" sites. I'll take TMZ of poker any day over those. you have it backwards. this site is all fluff. and just in case you are truly that dense, this site is an affiliate too, except they are only affiliates for cereus (major cheating scandal) and doyle's room (takes 6 months to pay their players).
Submitted by Guest on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 13:24.

Fight for the players? You

Fight for the players? You mean you can stop the BS now that you've been caught lying. PIC is looking pretty desperate here.
Submitted by Guest on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 23:53.

And you look like a shill for Merge.

nuff said
Submitted by Guest on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 00:11.

Fast cashouts at at least one site

I don't think I'll be using PIC again after hearing that they're launching their own network. Now it looks like the whole thing was set up to discredit Merge in order to drive players and affiliates onto their own site. The more I hear about this the more plausible it seems that Chuck Kidd set the whole thing up, he's the whale and is abusing the %'s he was getting from Merge to finance his own network start up. Starting to smell pretty nasty to me although I'm surprised that Merge haven't said more about it. Either they're truly in the wrong here or are trying to just dispell all the negative publicity from this. That being said I've been playing on BigBetPoker on Merge for a while and they're still working with PIC club but I've had cashouts to both PIC and other methods and they've always been really quick (1 day max) guess it's cos they're not using Merge cashier?
Submitted by Guest on Thu, 11/26/2009 - 15:54.

PLEASE BRING THIS IDIOT TO MY TABLE.

PLEASE BRING THIS IDIOT TO MY TABLE. The IQ of a turnip is what this person aspires to. Gee did you figure this all out by yourself. LOL
Submitted by Guest on Thu, 11/26/2009 - 20:37.

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