Murray Sabrin Interview With Jenny Woo

It's Primary Day in New Jersey and Gambling911.com's own Jenny Woo had the opportunity to discuss with Republican Senatorial candidate Murray Sabrin what he will do to help make the state (and the nation as a whole) a better place to live in the shadow of a looming recession.  Already discussed - New Jersey property taxes, pain at the pump and his strategy to go up against long time Senator, Frank Lautenberg (go here to read the first half of Jenny's interview).

Jenny Woo: You have a refreshing message...."Make online gambling legal". As you may know we are very passionate about that message, but explain why you are so passionate about this. And also, how has the reception been to this message thus far?

Murray Sabrin: The point is our campaign says legalize freedom and that means that people should have the freedom to do anything that's peaceful, whether it's gambling, whether it's taking care of their children's healthcare without the government mandating more and more vaccines, it's for small businesses without these mandates and high taxes that people have to face if they're a small business owner. So again, America has gone away from it's historical and philisophical roots of freedom and where the government is deciding more and more decisions for families, businesses and individuals. I want to return America to it's fundamental roots which is visible freedom and liberty.

Jenny Woo: I see how much money is taken in year after year from online gambling. I've met with these operators. I've been to their Costa Rican offices. The industry in Costa Rica alone employs more than 5000 people directly and we are talking about a billion dollar industry. Would you really want New Jersey to grant a license to the Jenny Woo Online Casino and if so would you ensure that my boss and his trusty assistant don't get 75% of the revenues? But seriously, what types of operators, companies would you be looking to participate in New Jersey's future online gambling industry? How do you keep those pesky little mobsters out?

Murray Sabrin: Well I think what it comes down to is the market place will sort out who the honest operators are. That's why if the large companies get involved they have the track record of integrity in the market place and that's what people are looking for, a name brand. That's why people go to McDonald's, drink Coca Cola and Pepsi and other brands that are known for high quality or good service. So that's what we need online. Where the customer really can pick the tie so to speak. But if things are done by operators that have a good track record, they start slow cause they are new and they build their reputation on honesty and integrity. That's how small companies become eventually big companies.

Jenny Woo: Ron Paul has endorsed you. He spoke recently at one of your fundraisers. The two of you share many of the same views on limited Government. Ron Paul has often referred to his efforts as a "revolution". Really, he wants more Constitutionalists to become forces in the Republican party and you are one such person. Now I’ll admit, the Constitution was not one of my strong areas in High School so you’ll have to forgive me here but explain to our readers and the voters of New Jersey the message you are trying to convey.

Murray Sabrin: Well it's simple, the government was spending too much money on programs that aren't authorized by the Constitution. And if the message of congressmen, past, present, to uphold the Constitution the federal government would be a lot smaller, taxes would be a lot lower and people would have more freedom. I'd say that's the type of America I would like see once again in the twenty first century and people who believe in the Constitution are the ones who can implement this vision rather than having the government manage this low fare warfare state which is expensive and unsustainable and that's where we need to go back to the Constitution like Ron Paul wants, like I want and other people want and that will give us more peace, prosperity and liberty.

Jenny Woo: Okay, You picked a horse to win the Kentucky Derby and came under some flack for using political funds to bet this huge underdog – which I’m sad to report DID NOT WIN. Why Cowboy Cal?

Murray Sabrin: I must admit that I had nothing to do with it. If the horse won, of course I would give credit to where it was due. But we thought in a long shot that would be a good way to bring a lot of bites to the campaign if the horse came in.

Jenny Woo: You know we want Ron Paul to be the next President of the United States, but that’s an uphill battle. It looks like Republican John McCain vs. Democrat Barack Obama. Of these two, who do you think would be best qualified to run the United States and why? What don’t you like about either candidate?

Murray Sabrin: Like I've said all along, as a member of congress of the United States said, "I will always put country above parties". So it doesn't matter who is President as far as I'm concerned. But as long as the President adheres to the Constitution and something that's good for the American people, short term and long term, I will support the policies of that President. So when it comes to the next President, I'm going to hold him or her to very high standards. You're going to have to demonstrate to me that you are not engaging in some partisan bickering of battle and that you will follow the Constitution and make sure that the policies that you support are one's that promote the general welfare rather then any individual group, corporation or separate society. And that's why it's so important that we have a Congress that understands that, that could be a check and balance on the President whoever that President may be.

Jenny Woo: You know I have to ask this since his state is right next door, but what was your reaction to the Eliot Spitzer scandal and more importantly, why do you think it is that all these political scandals are emerging in recent years (Mark Foley, Larry Craig). Should we blame Bill Clinton?

Murray Sabrin: The sad reality in politics in America is that politicians who claim to face their values, law and order and rule of law engage in behavior that contradicts their public message. And so that's why we can hold politicians to a very simple standard. Tell us what you believe in and demonstrate that you lead the life that you believe in. And so this is why it's sad for the families involved and the public because they are influenced by individuals who tell us one thing but behave another way. So all I would say is if you stay out of trouble good things will happen.

Jenny Woo: Sue Simmons and the F-Bomb. She’s an icon there in the Tri-State area. Was WNBC right in keeping her? And keep in mind she’ll probably be interviewing you before Election Day. Seriously, what was the fuss about? Not that I would ever say this word.

Murray Sabrin: This is the thing. People make mistakes in life. We don't let people go because they make one mistake. Let's move on to other things. She's apologized and that is that. (as a side note: Simmons did just get a nice promotion)

Jenny Woo: Tell us more about the book you are writing on politics, the economy and culture titled Velvet Fascism: How the Political Elites Transformed America.

Murray Sabrin: I started writing a book about the political economy, but I had to put it on the back burner because of all my activities at the college and other activities. I hope to get to it some day about how current America runs. My goal is to be a citizen activist and hopefully a United States Senator who will help turn America around because these are issues that need to be expressed immediately otherwise our economy is going to keep on flooding our currency is going to keep up falling and inflation is going to eat into budget for the American people.

Jenny Woo: I noticed that you have a profile page on Myspace. Has this helped in reaching out to the younger voters? And what is your stategy on getting the message out to those young adults to get out there to vote and more importantly for you?

Murray Sabrin: Well I'm hoping people go to Myspace. I've been so busy campaigning that I forgot to go to my Myspace page. I'm just hoping that people go there see the message take that message and blast it all over the internet, because the internet has become such a powerful marketing tool. It can get people on board, it can raise a lot of money with very little effort. The new paradigm in politics is that we need to get the message out, get young people interested in the process and achieve victory because victory will come success in turning this country around.

Jenny Woo: I'm about to get you a few hundred thousand more votes if you answer this last question correctly. New York Giants or New Jersey Giants?

Murray Sabrin: Hahaha. I know that their stadium is here. But they were founded as the New York Giants. They have great history in New York City. I consider it a part of the old New York/New Jersey metropolitan area so I don't take a postal view of these things because there are businesses that have one name and located in another town. So I think we have to be more giving if you will for people that use names that don't reflect their true geography.

Jenny Woo: Good answer.  In closing, was there anything else you'd like to add?

Murray Sabrin: You bet.  Please visit my website. www.MurraySabrin.com and don't forget to vote June 3rd (today).

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Jenny Woo, Gambling911.com Senior Correspondent

Originally published June 2, 2008 11:01 pm EST